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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1289
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Sat, 30 Oct 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1289
-
- Today's Topics:
- `Vanity` Call Signs
- Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta alphabets
- HF bands in need of repair
- HF USED RIG PRICE SURVEY
- How to monitor police digital communications
- ICOM 24AT problem **HELP**
- Is the band dead -- or nobody on?
- magazine article about antenna tuners
- Problems with Kenwood TM-742A
- SAREX Keps & Update 10/30
-
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-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 14:34:13 GMT
- From: news.kpc.com!amd!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!jfh@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: `Vanity` Call Signs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- bigsteve@dorsai.dorsai.org (Steve Coletti) wrote:
- >Subject: 'Vanity' Call Signs - ON HOLD!
- >
- > I've been scanning through this thread and have come to the conclusion
- >that no one knows that the program is now on indefinate hold. More on that
- >later, but first I want to correct a popular misconception.
- >
- > According to the policy, vanity call signs were only to be issued to
- >private and military radio clubs, although I'm willing to bet that it would
- >have been extended to individuals sooner or later. The FCC will not be
- >issuing these call signs. The vanity program would have gone into effect
- >only after the FCC turned over the issuance of callsigns and amateur
- >licenses to an authorized private agency under the Callsign Administrator
- >Program. The administrator would have been selected from the 6 applicants,
- >all of them are already in the VEC program.
-
- My impression was that there were two separate but related proposals.
-
- One program would have turned club signs over to one or more
- administrators. That program is on hold.
-
- The other program, which requires new computers and procedures at the FCC,
- would allow operator-requested callsigns. I'm not sure of the status of
- that proposal (I think it's still in the debate stage).
-
- --
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
- Jack Hamilton POB 281107 SF CA 94128 USA
- jfh@netcom.com kd6ttl@w6pw.#nocal.ca.us.na
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 21:14:17 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!warwick!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!bck1@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta alphabets
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Alpha Bravo alphabets
-
- Here is a collection of alphabets of the Alpha Bravo Charlie
- Delta kind, variously known as radio alphabets, phonetic
- alphabets and spelling alphabets. There are a number of
- distinct ones for English, and also alphabets for:
-
- French, German, Dutch, Flemish, Italian, Rumantsch,
- Swedish, Finnish and Russian.
-
- This posting supersedes the one of 25th September.
-
- My thanks to the many contributors, not all of whom are
- acknowledged below.
-
- I can make no guarantee of accuracy of this information;
- indeed please send me any corrections or additions.
-
- Comments in square brackets are my own.
-
- Brian Kelk bck1@cl.cam.ac.uk
- 29 October 1993
-
-
- ***** ENGLISH *****
-
- The NATO phonetic alphabet:
-
- Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India
- Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo
- Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu
-
- [The same alphabet, modulo Alfa and Juliett, is approved by
- the International Civil Aviation Organization and the FAA]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 21:18:17 GMT
- From: rtech!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!btoback@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: HF bands in need of repair
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2arced$8a6@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
- >Has anybody noticed that the HF bands are in pretty poor shape as of late?
- >
- >It seems as though DX is hard to come by, at least far-away DX. Anyway,
- >seeing as how there's a REALLY big DX contest this weekend, it would seem
- >that the ionosphere is in need of some "pumping up."
- >
- >Do you think we could get NASA to get the shuttle astronauts to drop some
- >spare ions into the atmosphere?
-
- Actually, has anyone tried "meteor scatter" using the Shuttle's re-entry
- trail? The ionization level wouldn't be as great as with something that
- was actually burning up, but you'd know exactly where to point your beam
- to get to it.
-
- -- Bruce Toback
- KN6MN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 18:55:08 GMT
- From: news.kpc.com!amd!netcomsv!netcom.com!netcomsv!behemoth.miro.com!marketingmac2.montage.com!user@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: HF USED RIG PRICE SURVEY
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <randall.751666881@infmx>, randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
- wrote:
-
- >
- > USED HF & 6m RIG PRICE SURVEY
- > 26 Oct 1993 Version
- >
- > Here is a list of actual transactions involving buying
- > and selling of used HF amateur radios.
- >
- > I have absolutely no affiliation with any ham-radio-related
- > business. Rigs are sorted by maker, model, and price. All
- > transactions were made within the past three years. I welcome
- > any additional responses; please indicate maker and model of
- > your used rig, date bought/sold, how sold (Usenet, retailer,
- > on air, private, etc.), price, condition, and any accessories
- > or options. This survey is limited to used HF and 6m rigs only.
- > For prices on new rigs, consult the AES catalog, or call a
- > ham retailer for a quote.
- >
- [list deleted...]
-
- I have not seen this list before, and think it represents a very valuable
- service.
-
- Are the prices quoted the ACTUAL TRANSACTION PRICE, or the asking price??
-
- Thnx
-
-
- Mark KM6FM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Oct 93 07:36:20 EDT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!mercury.wright.edu!desire.wright.edu!matrix.cs.wright.edu!isoper@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: How to monitor police digital communications
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1993Oct28.025204.11403@bongo.tele.com>, julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) writes:
- > In article <051346Z27101993@anon.penet.fi> an40111@anon.penet.fi whines:
- >>
- >>Any help on the subject would be appreciated, as well
- >>as suggestions for the acquisition of the appropriate
- >>equipment.
- >>
- >>This pertains to the systems used by the corrupt
- >>criminal cops of southern California.
- >
- > Geez, another tedious "no balls" anonymous post.
- >
- > Which "corrupt criminal cops" of southern California" are you
- > talking about? LAPD, Sherrifs, San Fernando, Pasadena, Monterey Park,
- > Hawthorne, Burbank?
- >
- > It seems that hiding your identity hides your thinking too. You
- > need to try to be clear when making requests of others.
- >
- > --
- > Julian Macassey, N6ARE. julian@bongo.tele.com
-
-
- Maybe this individual belongs the same group of "Freedom Fighters" in So.
- Cal. that are being investigated for their large purchases of 9mm Ammo
- and Weapons through out the Midwest at gun shows. (This came from a
- "corrupt criminal cop" friend of mine here in the midwest.)
-
- ---- Whoooo knows
- ------- Only the Shadow knows
- (an approximate quote from a 1930s radio show - disclaimer for the
- people with a precision fetish.)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Oct 93 16:18:14
- From: yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!hideg@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: ICOM 24AT problem **HELP**
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <SO-PATU.93Oct27225710@stekt4.oulu.fi> so-patu@stekt4.oulu.fi (Timo Patana) writes:
-
- In article <1993Oct27.163820.8393@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph P. Wetstein) writes:
-
- > but when I try to type in a frequency number, it only allows me to
- > enter the 3rd digit! i.e. if the display reads 144.100, and I type 152,
- > the display will read 141.52 ...
-
- > Is it in some silly mode that I can easily get out of, or is it
- > hosed?
-
- Try pushing 3+light when turning power on...just a guess
-
-
- Try light+B+3
- or maybe light+B+#
-
-
- --Steve
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Oct 93 10:59:46 EDT
- From: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Is the band dead -- or nobody on?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- By operating from both Hawaii and the East Coast at the
- top and bottom of the Sunspot cycles, I've come up with the
- following conclusions:
-
- Yes, propagation can be quite spotty--hundreds of stations
- can be on in a contest and I'll just hear two or three stations
- in a large area (such as New England). I assume from the contest
- results and operating during other contests that the hundreds
- of other stations were actually on.
-
- Surprisingly, sometimes I'd even work those stations with my
- my 2 watts! This is more apparent at the bottom of the cycle.
-
- The explanation is that these stations have very high antennas,
- which produce good signals at low radiation angles. Alternately,
- you could be appropriately situated on a hill with a favorable
- ground slope (such as Mt Greylock in Western Mass.) Simple
- antennas in a good location often outperform big antennas in
- a poor spot. An extra 10 dB of gain isn't enough to overcome
- a 40 dB null....
-
- Also, the path just might depend on something that is highly localized.
- For instance, E-skip is known to involve small patches or clouds.
- If the path is a result of several of these lining up just right,
- it isn't surprising to me that only a few stations are heard
- at one time.
-
-
- In rec.radio.amateur.misc, prvalko@vela.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko) writes:
- >
- >Alan Brubaker (alan@olin.es.com) wrote:
- >: In article <1993Oct27.200502.9559@VFL.Paramax.COM> rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM (Pete Rossi) writes:
-
- >: >For example, the other night I was tuning around 15 meters about 9 PM local
- >: >time (0100Z) and it sounded pretty dead .. but then I heard this one "PY"
- >: >station. He has a reasonable signal but nothing else was on the band.
- >: >It is hard to believe that in the whole continent of South America this
- >: >was the only station on. I could not hear the W station he was working.
- >
- >He was the only station on with a $5000 Alpha or Henry 10K ultra (export
- >version of course) and a Mosley Clasic 67 at 125 feet <g>
- >
- >: >Again, about a week ago I was tuning 15 meters in the early evening. Here
- >: >were these *two* JA's coming through working U.S. stations. Now, here it is
- >: >8 or 9 o'clock in the morning in Japan and you are trying to tell me that
- >: >only *two* stations in all of Japan are on 15 meters?? Really?? They are
- >: >supposed to have more hams than we do!
- >
- >They have a zillion hams in Japan, but they're all on V/UHF!
-
- I've worked quite a bit of them on 10 and 15 meters. Relatively
- few have 20 meter priveleges. Also, I've noted people tend to
- compare numbers that mean different things. For instance, I
- believe the numbers for Dayton represent the number of attendees.
- However, the numbers for Japan's equivalent is a summed attendence
- over several days. Last I heard, Japan still has lifetime ham
- licenses, which might tend to inflate the total compared to the
- US numbers. One of the biggest groups of amateur dropouts
- seems to be University professors--they once had their license
- but didn't have the time for amateur radio.
- >
- >: As we get into the depths of the sunspot minimum, the stations that
- >: have the large antenna systems will stand out more and more. When
- >: propagation is marginal, 100 watts and a vertical will simply not be
- >: as visible as a KW and a high antenna. Us little guys are going to
- >: get buried in the noise and QRM, and will likely go find something
- >: more fun to do. Stay tuned for the next sunspot peak around the turn
- >: of the century - about 6 years away. Good luck.
- >
- Not always. The most fun I had on 10 meters was at the bottom of
- the sunspot cycle, where my 2 watts *really* stood out when the
- band opened. At the top of the cycle, my signal got lost and I could
- no longer call CQ have a little pileup of VKs or JAs wanting to work
- a Hawaiian station. Of course, I don't recall ever operating when the
- solar flux was below 60..... but there were real nice openings with
- it in the low 70s.
-
- Zack Lau KH6CP/1
-
- Internet: zlau@arrl.org "Working" on 24 GHz SSB/CW gear
- Operating Interests: 10 GHz CW/SSB/FM
- US Mail: c/o ARRL Lab 80/40/20 CW
- 225 Main Street Station capability: 1.8 MHz to 10 GHz
- Newington CT 06111 modes: CW/SSB/FM/packet
- amtor/baudot
- Phone (if you really have to): 203-666-1541
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Oct 93 13:25:55 GMT
- From: ogicse!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: magazine article about antenna tuners
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <931028133308_133@ccm.hf.intel.com> Cecil_A_Moore@ccm.hf.INTel.COM (Cecil A Moore) writes:
- >Here is a quote from a recent magazine article about antenna tuners:
- >
- >"... it (the antenna tuner) also tunes out all mismatches in the system,
- >including transmission line to antenna mismatch, and also any non-
- >resonance in the antenna itself."
- >
- >Question: Is the meaning clear and if so, what is the meaning?
-
- It's perhaps not as clear as it should be, but what it means is
- that the combination of transmatch and the feedline, treated as a
- transmission line transformer, can match the antenna to the
- transmitter, and that you can introduce reactances at the transmatch
- end that will be transformed, Smith Chart fashion, by the feedline
- to a reactance at the antenna feedpoint that can tune the antenna
- to resonance by center loading.
-
- That's called a conjugate matching system. What it shouldn't
- imply is that you can reduce SWR on the transmission line. In
- fact, to act as a transmission line transformer, there must be
- SWR on the line. SWR is your friend in this system. Obviously,
- low loss transmission lines are preferred. This type of operation
- is common with open wire feeders, the common 105 foot flattop
- doublet is an example of this, as are the various flavors of
- "Zepp" antenna. What may not be so obvious to some is that
- coax fed antennas can be treated the same way if coax line loss
- is low at the frequencies of operation.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV |"If 10% is good enough | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | for Jesus, it's good | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | enough for Uncle Sam."| emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -Ray Stevens |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 16:20:14 GMT
- From: nntp.ucsb.edu!mustang.mst6.lanl.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!jdwhite@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Problems with Kenwood TM-742A
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I purchased a Kenwood TM-742A a couple weeks ago. I have noticed some
- quirks with the unit and would like to hear from other 742A owners about their
- experiences with this rig. Here are my experiences:
-
- ==> Initially, I had the 6M band unit installed as the third band. After the
- first 3 hours of use, I went into DTSS mode on the 440 band. The unit froze
- up and appeared to turn itself off. I pushed the power button, went into the
- 440 band, and pushed DTSS again; same thing happened. I had no problems
- getting this to work on the 2M band. After repeating this 7-10 times the unit
- finally got into a mode where it would turn on (show "-on-" on the display)
- and then turn back off rather than display the three bands. I took the unit
- back to the store that I purchased it from and swapped it for a new radio. I
- installed the same 6M band unit an had the same problems. After removing the
- 6M unit DTSS worked fine on both bands, so I'm returning the 6M unit to
- Kenwood.
-
- ==> I'm usually scanning on both bands when mobile. I have noticed that the
- unit will beep and stop scanning on the 2M side, seemingly at random. Even if
- I have set the control mode to the 440 side, the 2M side is always the side
- that will stop scanning. Most puzzling.
-
- ==> I have had problems with certain squelch modes. I started by using the
- "default" squelch mode (not Microprocessor or S-Meter control) and had
- problems with the squelch suddenly breaking. I would end up turning the
- squelch all the way up, yet the squelch would still be broken! *BUT* if I
- turned the radio off and then back on I would have to turn the squelch all the
- way back down to its previous position to find the threshold. I have
- experienced this problem several times. I started using S-meter squelch and
- have had no problems. Yesterday, I enabled Microprocessor squelch control. I
- found that I had to keep resetting the squelch control a lot so far. I'll
- probably go back to S-meter squelch eventually.
-
- Those are the major gripes (so far). Anyone know of a mod to speed up the
- scan rate? 2 ch/sec is too darn slow!
-
- -Jason, N0RWU
-
-
- --
- Jason D. White Durham Center Operations Staff
- jdwhite@iastate.edu Repeater Chairman, Cyclone Amateur Radio Club
- Iowa State University Packet: n0rwu @ ki0q.ia.usa.na
- Ames, Iowa
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Oct 93 12:17:20 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/30
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- R:931030/1353Z @:F6CNB.#SETX.TX.USA.NA [SugarLand] #:59769 Z:77478
- R:931030/0226z @:W5DDL.#LFTLA.LA.USA.NA [JNOS] #:46002 $:931029202643 Z:70503
-
- SB SAREX @ AMSAT $STS-58.031
- SAREX Keps & Update 10/30
-
- Saturday 10/30/93 @ 00:00 UTC
-
- Since all scheduled SAREX activities are now complete, several general
- QSO opportunities are available. While the SAREX Working Group cannot
- fully guarantee that the crew will be operating, there is a high
- probability that the STS-58 astronauts will be ready to take general calls
- over the continental U.S. on these passes. These opportunities include a
- pass on orbit 192 at MET 11 days 22 hours and 29 minutes (10/30 at 13:22 UTC)
- and a pass on orbit 193 at MET 12 days 0 hours 6 minutes (10/30 at 14:49 UTC).
- Please note that many hams on the ground heard or worked the Shuttle Columbia
- crew on several orbits today. Both voice and packet modes were operating.
-
- Element set GSFC-031, generated by Ron Parise, WA4SIR, will continue to be
- the official SAREX element set for today. On orbit 181 Gil Carman, WA5NOM,
- of the Johnson Space Center compared the orbiter state vector to GSFC-031.
- The state vector was 6 seconds later than this element set. Other later
- element sets (e.g. GSFC-038) are currently less accurate than GSFC-031.
-
- STS-58
- 1 22869U 93065A 93300.17699070 0.00133671 99048-5 24183-3 0 318
- 2 22869 39.0252 71.9896 0012817 34.2105 325.9529 16.00500857 1383
-
- Satellite: STS-58
- Catalog number: 22869
- Epoch time: 93300.17699070 (27 OCT 93 04:14:51.** UTC)
- Element set: GSFC-031
- Inclination: 39.0252 deg
- RA of node: 71.9896 deg Space Shuttle Flight STS-58
- Eccentricity: 0.0012817 Keplerian Elements
- Arg of perigee: 34.2105 deg
- Mean anomaly: 325.9529 deg
- Mean motion: 16.00500857 rev/day Semi-major Axis: 6651.1630 Km
- Decay rate: 0.13E-02 rev/day*2 Apogee Alt: 281.30 Km
- Epoch rev: 138 Perigee Alt: 264.25 Km
-
-
- NOTE - This element set is based on NORAD element set # 031.
- The spacecraft has been propagated to the next ascending
- node, and the orbit number has been adjusted to bring it
- into agreement with the NASA numbering convention.
-
- Submitted by Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO for the SAREX Working Group
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 22:11:36 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2ahec9INN6se@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <1993Oct26.130817.1696@mwk.com>, <4760@eram.esi.COM.AU>.Hawai
- Subject : Re: Bird watt-meters can't be exported?
-
- In article <4760@eram.esi.COM.AU> dave@esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall) writes:
- >Sigh... All right, you've all had your little joke; now, can someone
- >say (sensibly) why these meters cannot be exported?
- >
- >--
- >Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC PGP 2.3
-
- Well Dave, environmentalists tell us that when a foreign animal species
- is introduced to a region, the native species might not be equipped
- to compete with the new species; extinction could possibly occure.
- So, we have no choice but to NOT export our Birds - it would be an
- irresponsible act to do otherwise. Sorry.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Oct 1993 16:26:44 GMT
- From: mustang.mst6.lanl.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!anaxagoras.@nntp.ucsb.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2ahec9INN6se@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <1993Oct26.130817.1696@mwk.com>, <4760@eram.esi.COM.AU>ng.gtefs
- Subject : Re: Bird watt-meters can't be exported?
-
- In article <4760@eram.esi.COM.AU>, Dave Horsfall <dave@esi.COM.AU> wrote:
- >Sigh... All right, you've all had your little joke; now, can someone
- >say (sensibly) why these meters cannot be exported?
-
- My best guess: These are military surplus in new condition. As part
- of low price you have to abide by a blanket covenant prohibiting export.
-
-
- Rajiv
- aa9ch
- r-dewan@nwu.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- Alfred Benjamin Charles David Edward Frederick George Harry
- Isaac Jack King London Mary Nellie Oliver Peter Queen Robert
- Samuel Tommy Uncle Victor William Xray Yellow Zebra
-
- [Swiss version: Andrew Charlie Lussy Queenie Sugar]
-
-
- Sometimes used by radio hams (unofficial):
-
- America Boston Canada Denmark England France Germany
- Honolulu India Japan Kilowatt London Mexico Norway Ontario
- or Ocean Pacific Quebec Radio Santiago or Spain Tokyo United
- Victoria Washington Xray Yokohama Zanzibar
-
- [Much variation: Amsterdam, Brazil, Baltimore, Chile,
- Finland, Greece, Guatemala etc]
-
-
- The ARRL (American Radio Relay League) version (1948):
-
- Adam Baker Charlie David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John
- king Lewis Mary Nancy Otto Peter queen Robert Susan Thomas
- union Victor William x-ray young zebra
-
- [Nowadays the ARRL endorses the NATO/ICAO alphabet]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- able baker charlie dog easy fox george how item jig king
- love mike nan oboe peter queen roger sugar tare uncle victor
- william x-ray yoke zebra
-
- [This one seems to have undergone quite a lot of evolution,
- with different branches of the U.S. armed forces using
- different versions. Entries also cited: affirm, cast, hypo,
- inter, negat, option, over, prep]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- Amsterdam Baltimore Casablanca Danemark Edison Florida
- Gallipoli Havana Italia Jerusalem Kilogramme Liverpool
- Madagascar New_York Oslo Paris Quebec Roma Santiago Tripoli
- Uppsala Valencia Washington Xantippe Yokohama Zurich
-
- [Perhaps 'international' more than 'English']
-
-
- ***** FRENCH *****
-
- Contributor: Erik Tjong Kim Sang <erikt@let.rug.nl>
-
- anatole bernard c'ecile denise 'emile fran5cois g'erard
- henri isidore jean kl'eber louis marcel nicole oscar pierre
- quital robert suzanne th'er`ese ursule victor wagon xavier
- yvonne zo'e
-
-
- Contributor: Rudolf Lais <chibm5hp@ibmmail.com>
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- (Swiss telephone directory)
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- Anna Berthe Ce'cile Daniel Emile Franc,ois Gustave Henri Ida
- Jeanne Kilo Louise Marie Nicolas Olga Paul Quittance Robert
- Suzanne The're`se Ulysse Victor William Xavier Yvonne Zurich
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- ***** GERMAN *****
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- Contributor: mrosa@eso.org (Michael Rosa)
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- Anton Berta Caesar Dora Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida
- Julius Karl Ludwig Martha Nordpol Otto Paula Quelle Richard
- Siegfried Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xanthippe Ypsilon
- Zeppelin
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- Umlaut: A"rger O"dipus U"bel
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- More recent replacements: Konrad Zacharias
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- Contributor: Erik Tjong Kim Sang <erikt@let.rug.nl>
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- anton bertha c"asar dora emil friederich gustav heinrich ida
- julius kaufmann ludwig martha nordpol otto paula quelle
- richard samuel theodor ulrich viktor wilhelm xanthippe
- ypsilon zacharias
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- "a "arger
- ch charlotte
- "o "okonom
- sch schule
- "u "ubermut
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- Contributor: Rudolf Lais <chibm5hp@ibmmail.com>
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- (Swiss telephone directory)
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- Anna Bertha Caesar Daniel Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida
- Jakob Kaiser Leopold Marie Niklaus Otto Peter Quelle Rosa
- Sophie Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xaver Yverdon Zuerich
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- Contributor: Christof A Neumann <neumann@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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- (issued by Deutsche Bundespost)
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- Anton Bertha Caesar Dora Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida
- Jakob Konrad Ludwig Martha Nordpol Otto Paula Quelle Richard
- Siegfried Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xantippe Ypsilon
- Zeppelin
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- sch Schule
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- ***** DUTCH and FLEMISH *****
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- Contributor: Erik Tjong Kim Sang <erikt@let.rug.nl>
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- Dutch Flemish
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- a anna arthur
- b bernhard brussel
- c cornelis carolina
- d dirk desire
- e eduard emiel
- f ferdinand frederik
- g gerard gustaaf
- h hendrik hendrik
- i izaak isidoor
- j jan jozef
- k karel kilogram
- l lodewijk leopold
- m marie maria
- n nico napoleon
- o otto oscar
- p pieter piano
- q quotient qualite
- r rudolf robert
- s simon sofie
- t teunis telefoon
- u utrecht ursula
- v victor victor
- w willem waterloo
- x xantippe xavier
- ij ijmuiden -
- y ypsilon yvonne
- z zaandam zola
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-
- ***** ITALIAN *****
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- Contributor: ebuie@sed.csc.com (Elizabeth Buie)
- ebuie@starlab.csc.com
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- Ancona, Bologna, Como, Domodossola, Empoli, Firenze, Genova,
- Hacca, Imola, Jolly, Kappa, Livorno, Milano, Napoli,
- Otranto, Pisa/Palermo, Quartomiglio, Roma, Savona/Siena,
- Torino, Udine, Venezia, Wagner, Xilofono, York, Zara.
-
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- Contributor: Rudolf Lais <chibm5hp@ibmmail.com>
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- (Swiss telephone directory)
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- Anna Battista Carol Davide Ernesto Federico Giovanni acca
- Isidoro i_lungo cappa Luigi Maria Nicola Olga Pietro
- Quintino Rodolfo Susanna Teresa Umberto Vittorio vu_doppia
- ics ipsilon Zurigo
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- ***** RUMANTSCH *****
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- Contributor: Rudolf Lais <chibm5hp@ibmmail.com>
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- (Swiss telephone directory)
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- Anna Berta Carla Dora Emil Flurin Guido Hugo Ida Judit Kilo
- Luisa Maria Nesa Otto Paula Quirin Rita Silvia Toni Ursin
- Victor Willi Xaver Yvonne Zita
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- ***** SWEDISH *****
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- Contributors: simon@dront.nada.kth.se (Simon Tardell)
- Jonas Wallgren <jwc@ida.liu.se>
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- Adam, Bertil, Cesar, David, Erik, Filip, Gustav, Helge,
- Ivar, Johan, Kalle, Ludvig, Martin, Niklas, Olof, Petter,
- Quintus, Rudolf, Sigurd, Tore, Urban, Viktor, Wilhelm,
- Xerxes, Yngve, Z{ta, ]ke, [rlig, \sten.
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- where { is a with dots
- ] A with ring
- [ A with dots
- \ O with dots
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- NB that W does not belong to the Swedish alphabet
- (it is merely considered a graphical variant of V).
-
-
- ***** FINNISH *****
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- Contributor: Jukka Rahkonen <jrahkone@viikki.helsinki.fi>
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- Aarne Bertta Celsius Daavid Eemeli Faarao Gideon Heikki
- Iivari Jussi Kalle Lauri Matti Niilo Otto Paavo Kuu Risto
- Sakari Tyyne Urho Ville Viski [ks{ Yrj| Tseta ]ke [iti \ljy
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- Uppercase Lowercase
- ] } a with circle (Swedish)
- [ { a with dots
- \ | o with dots
-
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- ***** RUSSIAN *****
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- Contributor: tom@systemtechnik.tu-ilmenau.de (Thomas Planke)
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- Aleksej Boris Vasilij Grigorij Dmitrij Elena Zhenja Zoya
- Ivan Ivan_Kratkij Kilowatt Leonid Maria Nikolai Olga Pavel
- Roman Sergej Tatjana Uljana Fjodor Hariton Zaplja Chelovek
- Shura Schuka Tviordiy_Znak Igrek Miagkiy_Znak Emilija Yuri
- Jakow
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- ***** END *****
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- Brian Kelk
- Cambridge
- U.K.
- bck1@cl.cam.ac.uk
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